Wherein Chris makes headway and finds some points of agreement with a self-described gender dysphoric historian of gender before being disrupted by lawnmowers and women seeking to shut him down
This is a very interesting series. I, too, am amazed at the utter intolerance of younger people. My sense is that it stems from a deep insecurity, immaturity, and ignorance of the (actual, real) world around them. Thank you for this great reporting. Sincerely, Frederick
Kudos & much strength to Billboard Chris & to you too, Wes. These videos are so instructive. Young women think they're being compassionate and caring by going along with this nonsense, but they're not. They're dangerous and damaging to other girls.
BTW the person you identified as "either a trans-identified female on testosterone, or a trans-identified male on estrogen" is defo the latter. He's a very confused young man. I wish he knew he could be a feminine man instead of participating in this weird authoritarian cult.
AWFLs. That horrible acronym that nonetheless describes a certain cohort. Affluent White Female Liberals. Affluent = sheltered. White = feels guilty. Female = compassionate. Liberal = No idea when to stop.
It is good and right that those rare individuals with gender dysphoria are treated with respect and dignity. They have it tough and all decent people were raised not to mock the afflicted.
Enter vested interests preying on the naive and compassionate.
Enter victim culture, where if you're not oppressed you can assuage your guilt for sticking up for those who are (easier if they're in your own class). And it just runs away with itself, where putting yourself out slightly to use preferred pronouns leads to male rapists in women's jails, male teachers wearing comedy breasts complete with erect nipples defended by school boards, males winning women's sporting competitions.
There's a strong streak of misogyny among young women - specifically against older women. Against mum.
I don't really know why, despite having being afflicted with it myself. It might have something to do with basing one's worth on 'fuckability' which young women tend to do, even if subconsciously. That entails making oneself attractive to males and dismissing those women who don't measure up, older women for example or lesbians who don't glam themselves up. I've never seen it consciously expressed but I've seen it play out. All part of the mating game I suppose, and as such beneath rationality.
Any amount of sheltered young women don't really know what men are capable of. It's only a tiny subset of men - generous estimates based on UK data put it at 1% of all men who go the whole hog in actually raping - but they do an awful lot of damage. Women know this. Girls - gently brought up girls - don't. And it takes adolescents an awful long time to grow up, these days.
There's also the shadow of the religious right. People still think they're brave iconoclasts by kicking a horse that's already nearly dead. They have no power any more but rebellion is approved these days as long as you're kicking at approved targets. Performative for the gram but deeply conventional.
This is a fascinating piece of film. The sheer breakdown in communication betrays the spiral logic at the heart of all this hyper trans bullshit. Just let adults be adults. And kids be kids.
The reaction to this argument from the more power-tripping of the liminal collegiates reflects more on public roles -- i.e. pervasive campus pressure to be activist ideologues as the backbone of the college pseudo-economy -- than their personal engagement with these ideas Chris provokes. Like Marlon Brando in The Wild One, "What are you rebelling against," etc. the offended anti-rebel will latch on to just about anything that seems fun. I like that these types are few, and students haven't really changed, but the oldsters running the place have -- they keep those couple dozen aggrieved ones on a leash because it's so administratively useful to them.
University is a place of becoming, your first-ever chance to not be a schoolkid and start trying out possible selves. Can you fake it till you make it? How big will your life be? Arts & Humanities Faculties are highly competitive emvironments in more ways than one.
a) Intellectual competition takes place purely verbally (vocally or in writing), so it pays to be pushy and opinionated and shrill and shallowly articulate and hyperaware of current trends and skilled in using hip buzzwords before they drop out of fashion (by which time you'll have graduated). It helps if you smirk knowingly all the time to simulate confidence.
b) Sexual competition means looking right, but it also means not making yourself unfuckable by voicing uncool opinions or even muttering uncool doubts. It helps if you smile winningly all the time to simulate harmlessness.
c) None of these 18-year-olds have experienced a world without the internet. They have never not been online. This is not a trivial fact. It is a real historical rift.
d) Most of them have been cowed and traumatised and marked for life by the purely-mediated pseudopandemic. They believe they are surrounded by Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots and that only TheScience™ can keep them safe. Media literacy is a thing of the past. (It's "conspiracy theory" to doubt anything the screen tells you.) Having been thoroughly socialised into mediated unreality, it's no wonder they believe they can conjure a unique & fascinating Identity into existence just by saying the magic words. But they don't sound very happy about it.
e) Students used to value wit. Skilled pisstakers were feared and courted. It used to be cool to be funny. What happened? (See above.)
I think this is the first time I've ever seen an actual debate between these two positions IRL...such a shame too because there are interesting points to be made on both sides.
Seeing twenty-somethings act like petulant little children in order to disrupt a civil conversation is infuriating.
This is a very interesting series. I, too, am amazed at the utter intolerance of younger people. My sense is that it stems from a deep insecurity, immaturity, and ignorance of the (actual, real) world around them. Thank you for this great reporting. Sincerely, Frederick
Kudos & much strength to Billboard Chris & to you too, Wes. These videos are so instructive. Young women think they're being compassionate and caring by going along with this nonsense, but they're not. They're dangerous and damaging to other girls.
BTW the person you identified as "either a trans-identified female on testosterone, or a trans-identified male on estrogen" is defo the latter. He's a very confused young man. I wish he knew he could be a feminine man instead of participating in this weird authoritarian cult.
AWFLs. That horrible acronym that nonetheless describes a certain cohort. Affluent White Female Liberals. Affluent = sheltered. White = feels guilty. Female = compassionate. Liberal = No idea when to stop.
It is good and right that those rare individuals with gender dysphoria are treated with respect and dignity. They have it tough and all decent people were raised not to mock the afflicted.
Enter vested interests preying on the naive and compassionate.
Enter victim culture, where if you're not oppressed you can assuage your guilt for sticking up for those who are (easier if they're in your own class). And it just runs away with itself, where putting yourself out slightly to use preferred pronouns leads to male rapists in women's jails, male teachers wearing comedy breasts complete with erect nipples defended by school boards, males winning women's sporting competitions.
There's a strong streak of misogyny among young women - specifically against older women. Against mum.
I don't really know why, despite having being afflicted with it myself. It might have something to do with basing one's worth on 'fuckability' which young women tend to do, even if subconsciously. That entails making oneself attractive to males and dismissing those women who don't measure up, older women for example or lesbians who don't glam themselves up. I've never seen it consciously expressed but I've seen it play out. All part of the mating game I suppose, and as such beneath rationality.
Any amount of sheltered young women don't really know what men are capable of. It's only a tiny subset of men - generous estimates based on UK data put it at 1% of all men who go the whole hog in actually raping - but they do an awful lot of damage. Women know this. Girls - gently brought up girls - don't. And it takes adolescents an awful long time to grow up, these days.
There's also the shadow of the religious right. People still think they're brave iconoclasts by kicking a horse that's already nearly dead. They have no power any more but rebellion is approved these days as long as you're kicking at approved targets. Performative for the gram but deeply conventional.
This is a fascinating piece of film. The sheer breakdown in communication betrays the spiral logic at the heart of all this hyper trans bullshit. Just let adults be adults. And kids be kids.
Keep it comin wesley!
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The reaction to this argument from the more power-tripping of the liminal collegiates reflects more on public roles -- i.e. pervasive campus pressure to be activist ideologues as the backbone of the college pseudo-economy -- than their personal engagement with these ideas Chris provokes. Like Marlon Brando in The Wild One, "What are you rebelling against," etc. the offended anti-rebel will latch on to just about anything that seems fun. I like that these types are few, and students haven't really changed, but the oldsters running the place have -- they keep those couple dozen aggrieved ones on a leash because it's so administratively useful to them.
Some scattered thoughts about the context:
University is a place of becoming, your first-ever chance to not be a schoolkid and start trying out possible selves. Can you fake it till you make it? How big will your life be? Arts & Humanities Faculties are highly competitive emvironments in more ways than one.
a) Intellectual competition takes place purely verbally (vocally or in writing), so it pays to be pushy and opinionated and shrill and shallowly articulate and hyperaware of current trends and skilled in using hip buzzwords before they drop out of fashion (by which time you'll have graduated). It helps if you smirk knowingly all the time to simulate confidence.
b) Sexual competition means looking right, but it also means not making yourself unfuckable by voicing uncool opinions or even muttering uncool doubts. It helps if you smile winningly all the time to simulate harmlessness.
c) None of these 18-year-olds have experienced a world without the internet. They have never not been online. This is not a trivial fact. It is a real historical rift.
d) Most of them have been cowed and traumatised and marked for life by the purely-mediated pseudopandemic. They believe they are surrounded by Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots and that only TheScience™ can keep them safe. Media literacy is a thing of the past. (It's "conspiracy theory" to doubt anything the screen tells you.) Having been thoroughly socialised into mediated unreality, it's no wonder they believe they can conjure a unique & fascinating Identity into existence just by saying the magic words. But they don't sound very happy about it.
e) Students used to value wit. Skilled pisstakers were feared and courted. It used to be cool to be funny. What happened? (See above.)
I think this is the first time I've ever seen an actual debate between these two positions IRL...such a shame too because there are interesting points to be made on both sides.